Pretrib Rapture Passages

Posted in Uncategorized on August 20, 2019 by cavalier973
Revelation 3:8
“I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.”

Revelation 4:1
“After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.”

Revelation 12:5
“And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.”

Revelation 3:10

“Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.”

1 Thessalonians 1:10

“And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.”

2 Timothy 4:8
“Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.”

Revelation 3:11

“Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.”

1 Thessalonians 5:9-10

“For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.”

Isaiah 26:19
“Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.”

Isaiah 26:20
“Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.”

1 Thessalonians 4:16
“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:”

1 Thessalonians 4:17
“Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

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You cannot be prepared

Posted in For God with tags , , , , , , on August 8, 2019 by cavalier973

“Pray for Pre, Prepare for Post.”

The above statement refers to the timing of the Catching Away of the Church. The teaching of a Pretribulational Rapture is that the Church is Caught up prior to the beginning of the 70th Week of Daniel (Daniel chapter 9). Every other position (“Mid-trib”, “Pre-Wrath”, “Post-Trib”) argues that the Church has to go through some or all of God’s judgement on the earth.

Revelation 13:7 — “It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.”

There is no preparation a Christian can make to survive the 70th week, if, indeed, God includes His Church in His judgement on the world. Some may think they can build secret bunkers and store up water and beans (or whatever), and hole up until God’s judgement passes. However, if the Church has to, for whatever reason, endure God’s judgement, then the Church will endure God’s judgement. If the idea is that God’s judgement doesn’t actually fall on the Church, but the Church suffers the retaliation of the earth-dwellers, then that’s a problem, too, because of the verse I quoted above.

The Pseudo-Christ will find your bunker. He will take your beans and water. He will be able to do so because “it was granted to him”. He will have technological capabilities; he will have the willing service of your spying neighbors; he will have demonic spirits that can flit about, gathering intelligence on who is not supporting him. You. have. no. chance. God is allowing it.

You will be captured quite quickly, and dragged to your torture cell. If you have family, they will be captured, too. You will be forced to watch them suffer, and they will be forced to watch you. Someone will likely break, and deny Christ, just to get the torture to stop. Maybe that someone will be you. If a family member breaks, the torturers will gloat over you. “Your son denied Christ, to keep us from hurting you. Now, watch this!” And they murder your son. “Now, he’s in Hell. Ha! Ha! Ha! Wouldn’t you like to join him?”

Revelation 13:7

There will be no heroic shoot-out in the hills for you. You have a thousand guns, and plenty of ammo. The agents of the Pseudo-Christ will flood your bunker with sleeping gas, and capture you peacefully. They will feed you false information over your “burner phone”, and draw you out of your bunker. “Psst! Meeting at 321 South Ave for all true believers!” You won’t know who to trust, or what to trust.

Revelation 13:7

You won’t be brave. You will lie in your cell, covered in your filth, with your broken bones and torn skin, sobbing, and asking God why? Why?

Revelation 13:7

You will be abandoned by all your friends. You will be abandoned by those you trust. You will be abandoned by your own family. You will learn that every single one you thought was a fellow believer was actually one of the Pseudo-Christ’s agents, and they were all spying on you, and laughing at you for your faith.

Revelation 13:7

You will not be able to learn what is going on in the outside world. You won’t see Bible Prophecy being fulfilled, and so have your faith strengthened. You will be constantly told that everything is great for those who abandon their simple-minded nonsense believe in the Bible. Hey, this Bible you believe in was written by a committee, a little over a hundred years ago, anyway. All that stuff about ancient manuscripts and early writings was all invented, as an experiment to see who would be stupid enough to believe it. It was all a lie, anyway. See; here is the proof!

Revelation 13:7

You won’t be allowed to recite the bits of Scripture you memorized years ago in Sunday School. They will play recordings of John 3:16 that will be twisted, somehow, so that you will not remember it correctly. You will start memorizing the false Scripture of the Pseudo-Christ.

Revelation 13:7

 

However.

However.

Revelation 7 speaks of a “great multitude” that no one could count, standing in front of God’s throne; they are from every nationality. They are the ones who came out of the great tribulation. They are standing in front of the throne of God, serving Him day and night. So, many, many people do get saved. Take heart in that; but don’t think they got there because “they were prepared”. That would mean they were saved  by their works. The only reason those people are standing at God’s throne, is because of God’s grace to them.

As an afterthought, let’s look at this great multitude. They stand in front of God’s throne, serving Him in His temple. They are wearing white robes, and are carrying palm branches.  These people are not the Church. Go back and read Revelation chapters two and three. The Church has the privilege to sit on Christ’s throne; we don’t stand. The church has victor’s crowns in addition to white robes of clean linen. The Church reigns with Christ. And, if the identity of the 24 Elders is properly understood, the Church is already in heaven by the time this multitude arrives.

Some true believers in Christ may scoff at the Pre-tribulational Rapture of the Church. Well, one day, soon, they are going to get a very happy surprise.

Hey, David French

Posted in Uncategorized on July 16, 2019 by cavalier973

You ain’t the boss of me.

Do you believe in the Rapture?

Posted in For God with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , on February 21, 2019 by cavalier973

Do you believe in the Rapture?

This question is often misunderstood as “Do you believe in the Pre-Tribulational Rapture?” which I imagine greatly annoys my brothers and sisters in Christ who hold to a Mid-trib, Pre-Wrath, and/or Post-trib view of the Rapture. The question of whether the Rapture happens at all is separate from the timing of the Rapture.

So, where does the idea of the Rapture come from? The first place (in book order) is from Matthew 24:36-44. All quotes are from the King James Version.

But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
(Now, a lot of Pre-trib teachers object that this is not a Rapture passage, that it is a message to a Jewish audience, and does not apply to Church Age believers, however the description that Jesus gives in that passage is very indicative of a Rapture event. I will circle back to this point later.)

The next place that a Rapture event is implied is the Gospel of John chapter 14, versus 1-3.

Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

After that, we have 1 Corinthians 15:50-52.

Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Then, the famous (and more straightforward) 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18.

But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Those are the big ones. There are other passages that possibly hints at a Rapture event, or may not, but those are enough for a Bible student to conclude that there will be some sort of event where living believers will experience a miraculous transformation and transportation “at the coming of the Lord”, avoiding death in the process. I am not saying that everyone who reads the Bible should or even will conclude that a Rapture event is predicted, just that it is a reasonable conclusion one could make.

Now, as to the timing: I am definitely in the Pretribulational Rapture camp. The reason doesn’t involve a lot of cross-referencing Bible passages and unassailable arguments. I recognize that I could be wrong. I base my view primarily on the previously quoted Matthew 24 and on Luke 17:26-30:

And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; but the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
In each example that Jesus gives–Noah and Lot–the situation was thus: God was going to rain judgement on the earth, but He first evacuated His faithful followers. In Lot’s case, the angel said that he couldn’t start the destruction of Sodom until Lot was safely away. The angels had to literally take Lot and his wife and his daughters by their hands and physically drag them from the city. In Noah’s case, God gave Noah the plan for the ark, Noah built the ark, God brought the animals to Noah, and then God shut the door once Noah and his family and the animals were inside. Noah got to go inside the ark; he didn’t have to ride on top of it. Noah didn’t have a single drop of rain splash his cheek. The angel didn’t give Lot an asbestos umbrella. Lot didn’t have to flick sparks from his tunic as he ran (was dragged).  They were each in complete safety before God’s judgement fell.
Secondarily, I base my belief in the Pre-Tribulational timing of the Rapture on Daniel’s “70 weeks” prophecy, in Daniel chapter 9. Here is the key verse (24):
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Notice that Gabriel (who is the speaker here) says “thy people and upon thy holy city”? The “Seventy Weeks”–which includes the seven-year period we call “the Tribulation”, is for “Daniel’s people”, which would be Israel, and “Daniel’s holy city”, which would be Jerusalem. The Tribulation does not concern the Church at all. This is Israel’s time to again be the focus of God’s attention; He will bring the nation back to belief in Himself, and in their true Messiah, Jesus of Nazareth. In doing so, He will remove Satan as “god of this world”, and Jesus will take His rightful place on David’s throne. This is what Christians pray for when they recite “Thy kingdom come” in the so-called Lord’s Prayer.
There are more reasons to accept the Pre-Tribulational Rapture teaching, which are better explained at places like www.pre-trib.org. Those are the main reasons that I accept it.
Now, the Matthew 24 passage and the Rapture: Pre-tribulational proponents argue that this passage is Jesus talking to Jews, and so the section that speaks of “one taken, and the other left” is actually talking about the Second Coming of Christ, and that, based on the phrase concerning those that the flood took away, the “taken” means taken to judgement, and the “left” means left on earth to enjoy the Millennial Kingdom. However, if you take your Blue Letter Bible app, and look up the words “took” and “taken” in that passage, you will see that they are different words. If you further do a word study for the Greek word for “taken”, you will see that the first instance of the word in the New Testament is when God tells Joseph to take Mary to be his wife, and then it says that Joseph took Mary to be his wife. He didn’t take her to judgement. The word for “taken” means to “carry along”, as with the case of someone taking a friend with him on a journey. Meanwhile, the word for “left” can mean “abandoned”, “divorced”, or “sent away”. I don’t know, but the idea of being “abandoned” to the Millennial kingdom doesn’t sound quite right. I got this insight, by the way, from Robert Breaker in his Youtube Video on the passage. Mr. Breaker argues that the information Jesus gives here is to His disciples in a private session, and not to the Jews generally, and that He answers their questions in reverse order (Matthew 24:3):
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
He tells them what the signs of His coming and of the end of the world in verses 4 through 35, then in verses 36 through 44, talks about the timing. Just reading this last passage gives clues that those who will experience judgement don’t know it’s coming; they continue doing regular, everyday activities like eating, drinking, and marrying–they are living life normally, then, suddenly, one is “taken” and the other “left”. Even a cursory reading of the end times scenario described in Revelation would imply that life at the end of the Tribulation will be anything but normal. I doubt there will be much “eating and drinking”, because there will be no food or water, to speak of. I doubt that marriage will be a priority on anyone’s agenda over just surviving. The best counter to this argument that I have found is here, mainly because the author recognizes that the words for “taken” and “left” don’t fit with the idea of “taken to judgement” and “left to enter the kingdom in blessing”. However, his argument:
But more importantly I think the Lord’s point here was that just as people had no idea the world was about to end in the days leading up to the flood, no one will know the world is about to end in the days leading up to the second coming.
I find weak, for the simple fact that the time leading up to Noah’s flood was apparently uneventful, while the people who have gone through the Tribulation will know that the end of the world is at hand. They even say so, at the breaking of the sixth seal (Revelation 6:15-17):
And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; and said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Everyone knows what’s going on. It’s not going to be a surprise. Further, they can grab the few remaining copies of the Bible from night stands in abandoned hotel rooms and figure out they’ve got whatever amount of time remaining, based on the signposts given in Revelation. The repeated assertion in Matthew 24 that the coming of the Lord will be unexpected (“But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only“,  “Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come“, “Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh“, “The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of“)  seems much more in line with the imminent Rapture of the Church than the detailed and obvious events leading the the Second Coming of Christ.
There are other arguments against Matthew 24 being a Rapture passage, but I can’t think of them, right now. Maybe tomorrow. Whatever they are, I have not found them persuasive.
The important thing to do in the meantime is to believe in Jesus of Nazareth, the Messiah, for your salvation. He has paid all the expenses, He has made all arrangements, and only requires that you believe in Him. I urge you to do so.

The Divinity of Jesus of Nazareth

Posted in Uncategorized on February 11, 2019 by cavalier973
Matthew 16
“15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.”
John 1
“1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all menthrough him might believe.
8He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
John 5:18 – 47
“Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth. But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved. He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light. But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. I receive not honour from men. But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?”
John 8
“58  Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”
John 9
“35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him,Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.”
John 20
“26And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
27Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust itinto my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
29Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
30And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
31But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.”

Superbowl prediction

Posted in Uncategorized on February 3, 2019 by cavalier973

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Pompeo and the Rapture

Posted in Uncategorized on December 28, 2018 by cavalier973

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